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Author Topic: Paradox Greediness hits the roof this time  (Read 425 times)

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Paradox Greediness hits the roof this time
« on: June 23, 2017, 02:56:31 PM »
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  • It seems Paradox Studio which became more famous with their greediness then with their products hit new level of greediness. Since 2012 the company started production of DLC virtually creating games with the bare minimum resources, so that the players would be force to buy DLC's in order to play.

    Europa Universalis IV is clear example of this greedy trend - the game has 41 DLC's and Patches and the sum for buying all of them is around 250 EUR. For example second hand laptops from Business class from 2014 is the same price.

    So when on 17 May, Paradox Interactive made their games more expensive without any prior notice, the forum community finally burst with topic concerning this outrageous change. Paradox forum staff answer was the traditional one - closing and deleting the topic.

    Being greedy seems to be connected with being arrogant, as the Paradox CEO - Fredrik Wester wrote apologetic type of topic, which actually doesn't show any regret, except for the reaction of the community:

    "1. In regards to the price changes you are absolutely right. You deserve more transparency and better communication from Paradox when it comes to changing of our prices and pricing policy. Therefore I have decided to roll back all price changes made; any price changes will have to be for future products well communicated in advance. I just came off the phone with Steam and they say we can't do the roll-back before the Summer Sale is over (otherwise it would mean we have to take all Paradox products off the summer sale) but it will be done right after. For anyone who bought any of the games during this time (including during the summer sale) we will try to refund (if possible in the Steam platform) or reimburse with games of a value exceeding the difference. If none of this is possible (I do not in detail know the limits to the Steam platform) we will internally calculate the difference in revenue before and after the price change, double the value, and donate the money to the UNHCR.

    2. Some of the frustration has been expressed due to our DLC policy and how we handle additional content for our games. Since the release of Crusader Kings 2 (Feb 14, 2012) we have adopted a policy where we release paid content and at the same time content for free even if you do not want to pay for the DLC. This means that if you only paid for the original game, you still have a completely different game today with thousands of additions, upgrades and changes. This doesn't mean you should stop giving us feedback on how we conduct our business but if you straight out just hate our DLC policy I respectfully say that we have to agree to disagree.

    3. I have promised myself never to give in to mob mentality; it's one of the worst things I know and a terrible way to convince me. In fact, being a pig-headed CEO of a company that has grown from 7 people to 225 during time I have had the privilege to run it, I have probably from time to time been more prone to say "no" than "yes" when people gang up on me/us to make us change our minds - I guess partly by principle not to cave in due to pressure. In this case, my change of stance has been made from communicating with people who have been active in our community for 10+ years, people who spent thousands of hours in our games and coming to the conclusions you find above.

    Finally - as much as I love a good conspiracy theory; to be frank, the whole "Tencent bought 5% of Paradox and now they're all greedy" and "They're now a publicly traded company and therefore do things the market wish for" is below the level of intelligence of this community. I still hold 33.3% in Paradox, I am still CEO, board member and avid gamer. All you need to know is that the buck stops here. All problems/feedback can easily be sent my way, I will not always agree but I promise to listen. "


    Post by itself is very intriguing as it shows the directions in which this otherwise talented company is moving"
    Concerning his 1 - "Therefore I have decided to roll back all price changes made" - meaning the price change wasn't actually forced by Force Major circumstances, but from the mood of one person. So the dear Mr. Frederic decides today that the prices are too hight, tomorrow he might decide they are too generous. Someone forgets they are not the only game studio, producing historical types of games, yet they are much more greedy then names like Sega and Atari, with their Total War Series.

    Concerning point 2 - "Some of the frustration has been expressed due to our DLC policy" - trying to advocate producing of games with the bare minimum to run, filled in gaps from the modding community is more then stupid, but this is not the main issue - the real problem is that this answer means the Paradox CEO believes this system is ok. Strangely the community doesn't.

    "I have promised myself never to give in to mob mentality; " - so the customers and community are the mob. The same mob have rated their games in Steam as mostly negative due to mentioned above greediness and arrogance of Paradox. I'll let the facts speak about their selves the only questions is when Mr. Fredrik Wester and his team will take off their heads from their...private parts and start listening to the community, which is actually filling in the gaps in their sandbox games.



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    Re: Paradox Greediness hits the roof this time
    « Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 03:29:16 PM »
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  • They are not regreting at all. That is why indpendant modders are not cooperaring with them anymore.
    « Last Edit: June 23, 2017, 03:38:41 PM by Jukov »

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    Re: Paradox Greediness hits the roof this time
    « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 10:35:11 AM »
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  • Is it strange only for me that th spam attacks started after this topic? Coincidence?

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    Re: Paradox Greediness hits the roof this time
    « Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 10:42:58 AM »
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  • Is it strange only for me that th spam attacks started after this topic? Coincidence?

    I don't have any direct proves so I can't blame it on them.

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